I hope you are able to get your anger issues under control. And people who are so quick to judge others usually have some self-esteem issues. I have seen women who had only slept with one man end up being loose while in a relationship. have the ability to make the best choices for herselfimpulse control Typically, people do not cheat simply because they are accustomed to being promiscuous (or have been in the past). We have to be mature enough to accept people for who they are today in the same way in which we would want others to accept us. Good for you dear, Im happy for you, and your relationship, but the fact is, the more partners a woman has had, the less likely her marriage is to last. This is HILARIOUS from the perspective where people are making Judgment and the act of judging out to be a bad thing!!! Decisions determine who you are, end of story. That doesnt define who you will be.. Ironic that you accuse someone else of being too lazy to link you to a study that you can just look up yourself, but didnt, because you werewelltoo lazy. I would rather date a Virgin. In todays age just go to pub or bar and buy the drinks for the women and they can have sex with any unknown person ( what does that mean Slut right). Actually, the vagina does not get loose. Villarreal X Getafe - Ao Vivo Grtis HD Sem Travar | Futebol Grtis HD. Your situation is exactly what I want people to understand. Lastly all should value themselves because at the end of the day it is best for all to wait (though many of us struggle with it), so dont just put that on women. Promiscuous people usually are incapable of having long-term It is not fair to either spouse to have to compete with previous whether perceived or real upgrades the previous partner had. Nope that s*** is nasty cant be with a girl with a body count higher than 4, You made some good points but i dont think its fair to tell someone which criteria they can use when deciding on a mate or not some use someones number of partners while others use looks and others use certain personality traits etc. Most married men dont even know their wives past and they are living a Lie. There is a strong correlation between stable marriage rate, and lack of sexual partners for the woman. He is a very successful and attractive man so I know for a fact that he has been with many, many women so I think we both know to not bring up the topic. Heck, Ive even dated a slut, for a year! Now if you ask her and she lies about the number, then your point is much more valid in my opinion. Is this maths answer correct for probability? Ugh. Who she once was is not always who she is now. And if he did, I would not be honest. Hey Mike. Our wisdom is a form a judgement. Many men are saying that they dont like this, and dont want to end up marrying a guy with a vagina. I am available to help have the discussion. Why men are just saying fuck this and just fucking women and not giving a shit anymore ? It is amazing to see how in other 2,105 posts. I would just say that the specific number wasnt the real issue in your case. 6. Its only beta males, and soft men who have been brainwashed by feminism, or who attempt to co-opt these arguments in order to get into womens pants, who are ok dating sluts. Thats why I want to marry him. People are unable to act outside their own nature. Women have stooped down to men and act like pigs now. 4) Past baggage (Kids, men, pictures, etc ex lovers who know her, pics or video of ex partners doing unspeakable things to your significant other, stories and reputation) Theres a dirty shaming name for women whove had volumes of sex but only recently has there been a label for men that also have many sexual experiences with many partners. Is she a hoe or as you said on a hoe stroll? Make an effort to no longer throw it in her face, because that only makes it harder for her to be open and honest with you going forward. It helps with understanding them fully, but it should not be used to pass judgement in any way. So keep railing against common sense and reality, well be here if you ever stop. Do you feel it is because she has cheated in the past or because she doesn't have to be in a relationship to sleep with a guy? End of story. Men spread seed and women try to attract the best seed they can find. The Student Room and The Uni Guide are both part of The Student Room Group. However, for menthey are target-marketed like pigs in a pen. A lot of men would have a problem respecting and trusting a woman that is currently on or has been on the hoe stroll as you call it. As Oprah said (excuse me if I misquote) If you know better, do better. I just still think we have to evaluate that person for who they are now, or in many cases just trust GOD if you feel he has told you this is the woman for you. Some of the points you made in your last response was where I was trying to go, but duty called and I had to cut my post short. But if you only had one burger, that one burger would be your set standard. He willingly suffered and took our punishment for our sin upon Himself. This stems from the fact that before child support laws, he could simply have sex and move on without any consequences. So a man can use that as a measuring stick all he wants, but the reality is he may forever be getting false data. Regardless of what it was, it shouldnt matter. I want to dedicate long term to this girl as that is what I like to do when I commit to a relationship but I'm terrified that I will end up wasting a large amount of time on a girl who will end up cheating on me or blowing up in my face. The experiences you're concerned about are, well, XP, and in that regard she's a high-level operator. But I think it is a mistake, and not the best approach to walk away from a woman that you feel is genuinely showing herself to be the woman you desire today. To be completely honest, I would not have been bothered if all 15 men before me were past relationships. Judgment rules every single day in every aspect of life. Be happy you have a girl. Are you telling me that the number of sex partners she then tells you is worth walking away from this woman. No one-male or female-should be judged for their past actions. We have been together for almost a year now. There can be comparison issues, less patience due to what they have experienced previously, and a bunch of other stuff I will address in a future post. So that we, too, can be raised with you on the last day! understand that men careand crafty ones will attempt to figure out Dont get me wrong, I understand that with higher numbers there is a higher chance of certain issues coming in to play that most men will not want to deal with. Men should do the same, but with women it is even If you find someone that loves you, supports you, and that you love and aregenuinely happy being around dont let the number of sexual partners that person has had force you to leave someone who was perfect for you. Third, women have the power of their womb. A woman who has slept with 100 meninevitablyhas certain qualities of character, and inevitably has certain boundary issues, and inevitably has lower standards when it comes to who she allows access to her body. A slut is a slut, and dont matter what gender. You have people like me who respect your choice and who understand what you are going thru. So you may want to take a deeper look in trying to understand the problem and how to better approach it. I believe, I love the fact the despite only being with one man, you are still able to take the position of not using someones past against them. However, there are exceptions to every rule. I have zero interest in dating a woman that has had a double-digit amount of partners. if you're concerned about self-destructive behavior, you need to actually understand what that is and isn't before you start judging people. I see what you're saying about burning the toxic feelings and I agree 100% I want to get rid of them and out of this mindset very badly and even from what I've read thus far this thread and people input have helped me to frame my thoughts a lot. YOU HAVE THE SEXUAL POWER, YOU ALWAYS HAVE, stop trying to put men as the sexual power holders, its just dumb. Run. Ive been in two serious relationships. Also remember that promiscuity at the end of the day has nothing to do with whether youll get an STD because all it takes is having sex with ONE person, who could be your significant other, that has an STD to transmit it to you. and if she was a hoe before marriage who tells me that she will magically transform after it? Not saying that is ok and right, just pointing that out. Men are perfectly within their rights, when choosing a mate to spend the rest of their lives with and mother their children, to choose a women who is not only kind and intelligent, but also has not lived a life full of promiscuity and whorish behavior. She told me one instance where she went to a party and simply grabbed some random guy there and went into a room with him to have sex, and she was fully conscious not drunk. THE DIFFERENCE IS A WOMANS BODY IS BUILT DIFFERENTLY AND THE WEAR AND TEAR IS MORE EVIDENT. so i assumed that he is not a virgin. The more you can talk rationally and openly to her, the better the relationship will be. Im reformed!. Basically, many women today want to be able to act like a whore while they are younger, and still settle down with a man in a stable marriage once they get their promiscuity out of their systems. I completely understand where you are coming from and I do believe in discussing a persons past. LOL!! But to think you cant find anyone compatible with you is B-S. People use the word perfect as an excuse to not have to live up to any expectations. Men and women are different. I understand the views of all who have chimed in on this topic. So not every loose girl is just doing it for fun. So what do men typically like? although Ive had my fair share partners i dont like a woman who has. Evaluate that person for who they show you they are today, and the days ahead. I told her that unless she knew those particular girls background, she really had no basis to formulate a judgment. Copyright The Student Room 2023 all rights reserved. same discounted price. Nobody is talking about taking away civil rights from someone because of their choices, but it is perfectly within the rights of men to judge a woman they want to spend the rest of their lives withdifferentlythan they would judge their male buddies. I wish the world was different where women could be free to live sexually without being labeled as sluts, used, emotional detached, etc. She had never been sexually active and would only have sex if it was in a relationship with a man she loved. Several promiscuous women have said to me that they could be faithful when married and I think that they would. You can try to explain Him out of existence all you want. And I prefer to date her for a while before I sleep with her. So either the person is tested positive or they test negative. or do I want that same wear and tear from sleeping with me 200 times?? My girlfriend who I am seeing right now has had sex with about 65 people Not saying its right for a man to walk away, but there are women who dont even tell the presumptive father of their pregnancy status. Or would you rather have a car thats bee driven by a lot of different people. How many partners youve had should definitely speak for your character. So shes had a lot of partners at the same time in the past- if everyone in the situation knew what was up (that there was no expectation of monogamy), then theres no harm to it! Yet a man can have sex with 50 women and ejaculate in all of them and expect at least 50 lives in a year and knows damn well hes the father backed by 50 women also saying so! Obviously, the sexual freedom we spoken likea girl who has slept with a lot men. If it didnt matter, women wouldnt get offended when you ask. Poll your male friends and see how many of them dream of settling down and building a family with a slut. Because in each of our lives (male and female)we have had that hoeing moment. . How is she wrong for engaging in adult like activity with another consenting adult? I dont know. Yall need to start doing some research and stop sleeping around. Im a guy who never really had any girlfriends, I turned down or was just completely blind to all advances to me and missed all opportunities, I never really cared (or told myself I didnt, but probably I did), I would be a virgin if it wasnt for the few random prostitutes I slept with yeh, something Im not happy about but I only did it cause I was lonely and never believed in myself, I had my heart broken a few times (yeh wahh wahh, I was young and a sensitive human being), I had chronic anxiety and the thought of even going on a date made me want to vomit so I never met anyone or just avoided it I was 28 before I finally met someone who actually loves me, I was blown away. She says that she really wants me to know the truth about her past and how many people she slept with. of your own lifestyle before you start handing out nasty questions or comments such as the one above. "Women tend to be more unhappy with the relationship they are in . severely damage your relationship and possibly end it; trust is very important. Many of the modern women want to be as promiscuous as they please and then expect men not to judge them for it. Okay Thats a load of crap! I am married to a wonderful woman with two kids. But how will explain Him away on that terrifying, yet, Glorious Day when you actually do meet Him face to face? Some women can be a virgin and have all kinds of issues due to other experiences in their life, while a woman may have once been promiscuous, turned away from that and now is in a much better place mentally and emotionally. I dont think so. For example, if your first sexual experience is a violent one, pain could cause you to become numb sexually and emotionally. You cannot truly understand or know a person until you know just about everything. But I see it that she has chosen me above her past. I think people need to stop judging one another and get to know a person for who they are now and not the person they were in the past. Im selfish like that.LOL. Its safe to say that we feel/felt that way about each other. Besides if you find out she sleeps with the types of guys who sleep around, thats alarming. Why are we so stuck on this? She's independent, classy, carries herself well, acts like a lady, has standards for who she sleeps with, doesn't disclose unnecessary information about her sex life, and she certainly doesn't let men disrespect her, because she respects herself. Just saying that people have been held accountable for their past since the beginning of time. But until men realize that the more you all make advances towards us irregardless of what we declare we want, the more you promote promiscuity among your male circles, the more you all support the media that supports the sexual exploitation and objectification of women, then the more youll see women sleeping with a bunch of different men. What non practical thing are you buying with your maintenance loan first. Lmao!!! Do you know that DNA from every Man U sleep with gets in your blood and stays in it for a very long time? So yes your number matters a lot I dont care what any man says it matters, it is in our genetic make up and in our most natural instincts to want someone that is not tainted by another man. Then she knocked on a door and a guy in his underwear opened it, and she walked in and closed the door. My question ishow well do you believe your clever and sincere explanation will hold up while trying to explain it to Him personally? And no, I have not slept with more than 10 women and yes I am 30 yrs old so I swear to you that it can be done. We all make judgments all the time. A slut is a slut. I personally would have never dated a guy who has slept around a lot. And any woman With that being said, this was really good! You say what happened to encouraging people to do better, but how is continuing the practice of judging people on their past a good thing? But Ultimately, We are so busy judging each other we have forgotten the true meaning of what love even is. Out of every 10 girls, say about 5-6 hv premarital sex. Or not. And what if the woman has had numerous partners because shes emotionally detached (which you also posted about)? Probably not, but its still a shock every time I think about it. I hate to have to point out common sense to you, but obviously. FACEBOOK is a trademark of FaceBook INC. Stephan Speaks | All Rights Reserved 2020. Dude, you better check yourself before you mess yourself! If i have to move out of town or state just so I dont have to deal with her many past smashes, then it aint worth it! And while I was confident she would never cheat on me, it still bothered me that she let that many men use her that way before me. So if he is in a relationship that he feels is the best he ever had, and everything is great, but then she reveals the number. I wont judge a woman based on her sexual history but Im keeping it real 100%, its going to make it VERY hard for me to trust you. And, if we try to claim that we haven't ..then, guess what? And if he is, so what? I just figured that if some of these ignorant people want to judge people they dont know Id give them a short and specific story. A woman who cheats on her husband has violated their relationship. My life was so hard because of my sexual freedom so I want her life to be much easier than mine and easier would be for me to teach her to not express her sexuality and to just hold out as long as possible. Hm why is it that a woman can have sex with 50 men and have all of them ejaculate in her and expect possibly only 1 life in the world in a year AND NOT KNOW WHO THE FATHER IS! Im happy to be settled down now. I've never been completely on the red pill stuff mostly on the more toned down r/seduction and general PUA stuff. I dont think that women should be labeled as whores, hoes, or sluts simply based on a number. Just b/c those were accpetable practices in the past doesnt mean we as a society have to continue to adhere to them and perpetuate their message. Wesley Pipes, calls out Kobe' lol you really took it there. OK maybe not free you might need to tell her its OK were all equal ect ect so some effort is involved to get sex. So youre in love and want the relationship to work. She eventually cheated and we broke up. I said okwell its actually 40 something. I believe the average male has a high sex drive, created to be the leader/pursuer.. I Dont see it as passing judgement. 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